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Republican Gov. Scott Walker (left) used a poll to test attack lines on his Democratic challenger, Tony Evers. Republican Gov. Scott Walker (left) used a poll to test attack lines on his Democratic challenger, Tony Evers.

Republican Gov. Scott Walker (left) used a poll to test attack lines on his Democratic challenger, Tony Evers.

Tom Kertscher
By Tom Kertscher September 26, 2018

Scott Walker's claim that Tony Evers said taxes should pay for abortions as they do tonsillectomies

A telephone poll conducted for the re-election campaign of Republican Gov. Scott Walker tested lines of attack on state schools superintendent Tony Evers, Walker’s Democratic challenger in the Nov. 6, 2018 election.

The person conducting the poll, which was revealed by the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel on Sept. 17, 2018, would read a statement. Then she asked the person on the other end of the line if the statement would make her more likely, or less likely, to vote for Evers.

One of the statements was:

"Tony Evers says that tax dollars should pay for the abortions just like they pay for tonsillectomies."

Evers didn’t say exactly that; but it’s close.

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Medicaid

To begin, let’s note that we will be talking about Medicaid. The state-federal insurance program provides coverage for some low-income people, families and children, pregnant women, the elderly and people with disabilities.

On abortion, federal law prevents states from using federal Medicaid money to pay for an abortion unless the pregnancy is the result of rape or incest, or the abortion is necessary to save the life of the woman.

States can use their own funds to cover other medically necessary abortions — usually defined by states as those to protect the physical or mental health of the woman  — for Medicaid beneficiaries.

In Wisconsin, Medicaid can be used to pay for an abortion if continuing the pregnancy would "cause grave and long-lasting damage to the physical health of the woman," according to the state Department of Health Services.

Now to Evers’ comments.
 

Weekly Standard article

A couple of weeks before the poll, the conservative Weekly Standard published an article based on an interview it did with Evers. The article reported that Evers said tax dollars should be used to pay for abortions, just as they do for tonsillectomies.

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More specifically, this was the exchange:

Weekly Standard reporter: One story I'm interested in is the role of pro-life Democrats: Do they have a place in the party? There've been fewer and fewer in Congress. What is your message to them? Do you want to see Medicaid funding of abortion generally? I know that's restricted in Wisconsin.

Evers: Yeah, we have a big tent here in Wisconsin. We have to, in order to win elections. And yes, pro-life Democrats are welcome in the party, and I respect their decisions on this issue. But we need to have the Medicaid money be available for all people and restricting it because of a certain procedure, whether it's a tonsillectomy or any other procedure, seems to me a foolhardy thing to do. So, yes, we have to respect people's pro-life beliefs, and certainly they're welcome in the Democratic Party. Absolutely.

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Evers’ remarks drew criticism from conservative media, anti-abortion groups and the Rev. Franklin Graham, president and CEO of the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association. Walker tweeted a link to the article.

When we asked Evers’ campaign about his remarks, the campaign told us:

"Tony was talking about access to reproductive care. He believes the government shouldn’t be in the business of coming between patients and doctors and that everyone should have access to affordable reproductive health care."

So, when asked about Medicaid funding for abortion, Evers said the use of Medicaid, which is tax funded, should not be restricted by any procedure, which would include abortion.

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Walker stated: "Tony Evers says that tax dollars should pay for the abortions just like they pay for tonsillectomies."

Evers didn’t make that exact statement, but the statement is a reasonable way to describe what he said.

A reporter had asked Evers: "Do you want to see Medicaid funding of abortion generally?" And Evers replied saying, "we need to have the Medicaid money be available for all people, and restricting it because of a certain procedure, whether it's a tonsillectomy or any other procedure, seems to me a foolhardy thing to do."

So, Evers said the use of Medicaid, which is tax funded, should not be restricted by any procedure, which would include abortion.

We rate Walker’s statement Mostly True.

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"Tony Evers says that tax dollars should pay for the abortions just like they pay for tonsillectomies."
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Monday, September 17, 2018

Our Sources

Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, "Bice: Audio shows Scott Walker's campaign testing eight lines of attack in private poll," (6:40)Sept. 17, 2018

The Weekly Standard, "Scott Walker's Dem Opponent: Tax Dollars Should Pay for Abortions Just Like They Pay for Tonsillectomies," Aug. 29, 2018

Interview, Scott Walker campaign spokesman Brian Reisinger, Sept. 20, 2018

Email, Tony Evers campaign spokeswoman Britt Cudaback, Sept. 20, 2018

Kaiser Family Foundation, "State funding of abortions under Medicaid," Oct. 1, 2017

Wisconsin Department of Health Services, "Abortions," July 6, 2017

Email, Pro-Life Wisconsin legislative director/deputy state director Matt Sande, Sept. 21, 2018

Email, Wisconsin Department of Health Services spokeswoman Julie Lund, Sept. 24, 2018

Email, Planned Parenthood Advocates of Wisconsin spokeswoman Iris Riis, Sept. 21, 2018

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