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Matthew Rosendale
stated on July 31, 2017 in Voices of Montana radio show:
Says Sen. Jon Tester "believes that we should have a national registration so that the people of Montana should have to ask permission before they purchase a gun, ask permission from the federal government."
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John Kruzel
By John Kruzel August 21, 2017

Republican Senate hopeful's absurd claim Montana Sen. Jon Tester supports a national gun registry

While declaring his U.S. Senate bid, Republican hopeful Matt Rosendale zeroed in on the Second Amendment record of his opponent Sen. Jon Tester, D-Mont.

"Tester believes that we should have a national registration so that the people of Montana should have to ask permission before they purchase a gun, ask permission from the federal government," Rosendale, Montana's state auditor, said in a July 31 interview on Voices of Montana.

We decided to investigate whether Tester supports a national gun registry. It turns out the opposite is true.

What is a national gun registry?

This point may seem obvious but it bears highlighting: the government does not have a single, consolidated list of all guns and all gun owners across the country, or, what a layperson would call a national gun registry.

"When people talk about national gun registration, they most commonly are talking about a list of people who own guns lawfully, or a list of the guns that are lawfully owned," said David Kopel, a policy analyst at the libertarian Cato Institute who has authored several books on gun control.

An important caveat, however, is that the National Firearms Act of 1934, which Congress passed in response to that era’s rash of organized crime, did set up a registry for limited types of guns and other weapons. Those included machine guns, which fire multiple rounds with a single pull of the trigger; short-barreled rifles or shotguns; disguised guns, like those made to look like a belt buckle; hand grenades; and silencers.

While some might consider the registration of machine guns and silencers to be a national gun registry, that’s inconsistent with common parlance.

Further, Rosendale’s statement alleges Tester supports a registry to apply broadly to "the people of Montana," and Rosendale’s campaign gave no indication he was referring to the narrower National Firearms Act registry.

We asked Rosendale’s campaign for evidence that Tester supports a national gun registry. They pointed us to a vote Tester cast in favor of a 2015 amendment sponsored by Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., that failed in the Senate.

Did that measure seek to establish a federal list of guns and their owners?

Not even close.

The campaign’s attempt to paint the Feinstein amendment as a national gun registry is absurd, and here’s why

For the past nearly 20 years, federally licensed gun dealers have been required to run an FBI background check on customers. Would-be purchasers are checked against an FBI list of people prohibited by law from owning guns: those with felony convictions, known illegal aliens and domestic abusers, to name a few categories.

The Feinstein amendment sought to extend the FBI’s list to those on the U.S. government’s consolidated terror watchlist of known or suspected terrorists, and grant the attorney general discretion to deny them from buying a gun.

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The Rosendale campaign’s argument appears to be as follows: Because the terror watchlist has mistakenly listed innocent people, the watchlist could be used as a national gun registry.

Experts dismissed the notion that to deny gun sales to the government’s list of known and suspected terrorists, flawed as it may be, is the same thing as making a federal list of lawfully-owned guns and its owners.

"The terror watch list is not a gun registry," said Philip J. Cook, a professor of public policy studies at Duke University and an expert on gun control. "In fact, if the Feinstein amendment were passed and enforced, then the terror watch list would be a registry of people who did not have guns!"

David Hemenway, a professor of health policy at Harvard University who has written extensively about firearms policy, said the Rosendale campaign’s explanation of the Feinstein amendment doesn’t add up.

"This simply has involved changing the criteria for passing a background check. It is nothing like a registry," Hemenway said. "He doesn't seem to understand what a registry is."

So Rosendale’s central claim is flat wrong — but he didn’t stop there. Rosendale said the registry Tester allegedly supports would require Montanans to "ask permission from the federal government" before they purchase a gun.

Because the alleged gun registry proposal is a fiction, it can have no policy implications. So this extra bit only serves to enhance the claim’s absurdity.

The Rosendale campaign said further that Tester’s votes against several measures means he is tolerant of a national gun registry because these measures would have made it harder to enact one. However — leaving aside whether these bills would have done that — the reality is that Tester’s record shows clear instances where he opposed gun registries.

Tester’s opposition to a national gun registry

Tester voted for the 2013 Manchin-Toomey Amendment, a bipartisan background check plan, which we previously found would have strengthened federal law prohibiting the creation of a national gun registry.

In 2011, he was among a group of lawmakers who pushed for a provision to block federal funding from being used to retain gun background check records for more than 24 hours, and voted in favor of the bill that contained this provision. (Tester expressed concern as early as 2006 that maintaining such records could be the first step toward a national gun registry).

He also co-signed a 2011 letter to President Barack Obama and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton raising Second Amendment concerns that a proposed U.N. arms trade deal could lead to an "international gun registry." For this, Tester earned praise from the National Rifle Association for "stand(ing) on the side of America's 80 million gun owners in opposition to those who want to eliminate our freedoms."

Our ruling

Rosendale said Tester "believes that we should have a national registration so that the people of Montana should have to ask permission before they purchase a gun, ask permission from the federal government."

Tester’s record shows opposition to a federal list of lawfully-owned guns and gun owners. To claim he supports this is absurd.

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Says Sen. Jon Tester "believes that we should have a national registration so that the people of Montana should have to ask permission before they purchase a gun, ask permission from the federal government."
Voices of Montana radio show
Monday, July 31, 2017

Our Sources

Matt Rosendale interview on Voices of Montana, July 31, 2017

Montana Public Radio, "Matt Rosendale Announces Run For Montana Senate Seat," July 31, 2017

Federal Bureau of Investigation, "National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS)"

Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, "National Firearms Act"

PolitiFact, "Obama says bipartisan background check plan "outlawed any (gun) registry," April 18, 2013

McClatchy, "Idea of no guns for people on no-fly list fails to gain enough backing," Dec. 4, 2015

National Rifle Association press release, "U.S. Senate Stands with NRA in Strongly Opposing U.N Gun Control Efforts," July 22, 2011

Email interview with Kyle Schmauch, spokesperson for Matthew Rosendale's Senate campaign, Aug. 10-11

Email interview with Chris Meagher, a senior communications advisor of the Montana Democratic Party, Aug. 11, 2017

Email interview with Philip J. Cook, a professor of public policy studies at Duke University and an expert on gun control, Aug. 11, 2017

Email interview with David Kopel, a policy analyst at the libertarian Cato Institute and author of several books on gun control, Aug. 11, 2017

Email interview with David Hemenway, a professor of health policy at Harvard University who has written extensively about firearms policy, Aug. 11, 2017

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